Discovering the depth and breadth of giftedness

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The sign announcing the Gifted Homeschoolers Forum October blog hop: Discovering the depth and breadth of giftedness appeared at Sprite’s Site at much the same time as the Lobsters arrived for their Annual Lobby Lobsterfest with the Lolly Lobbing competition and dancing of the Lobster Quadrille.

The suggestions for the topics which could be discussed read

This hop is about exploring the breadth and depth of giftedness – in general, in your kids, or in whatever you want to explore. Perhaps it’s also an opportunity to discuss what the public doesn’t understand – how giftedness looks like a lot of things because it IS a lot of things, not just a kid sitting in the front row of the classroom getting easy As. Perhaps less simplification of giftedness would help others to understand nuances and complexity – why we keep going on about it, and why a one size fits all GATE program doesn’t work for all gifted kids (nor even identify them all).

“Depth and breadth suggests the necessity to measure” declared the Lobsters.
The Forensic Lobsters had brought all the tools necessary to gauge the possible presence of the Wicked Lemon Wedges
They produced rulers to measure the extent of the giftedness and a protractor to measure the degree of the giftedness.
With the help of One Twitter Bird on a ladder they measured Sprite while she was standing. Even though Sprite was not standing up straight the ruler was not long enough to give an accurate measure.

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So then they measured her in a seated position and checked the number of degrees of the angle of elevation of her leg and added the total (in degrees) to the height total (in centimetres) to compensate for Sprite being a 2E student and came up with an IQ of …….

“What on earth dooo yooou think yooou are doooing?” hooted the Psych-Owl- Ogist.

“To identify giftedness and derive an accurate score for IQ it is necessary for a qualified psychologist or education consultant (preferably with an interest and expertise in giftedness) to administer appropriate testing. The tests must have a sufficiently high ceiling level to be accurate at the upper level; otherwise you will only be able to say that the IQ is above a certain level. I have heard it likened to measuring all the members of the Harlem Globe Trotters basketball team with a six foot ruler and then saying they are all more than six feet tall.
And there are also other ways of identifying giftedness by observation and check lists.

But, as I told Retweet Gifted is not a homogenous group!
There are varying levels of giftedness and varying domains of expertise combined with varying character profiles and personality types.
I discuss some of the aspects of giftedness here https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/the-psych-owl-ogist-2/

And I talk about social/emotional issues here https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/the-psych-owl-ogist-4/

Fortunately Gifted Homeschoolers Forum has an excellent collection of articles about these topics at http://giftedhomeschoolers.org/resources/parent-and-professional-resources/articles/
Defining giftedness at http://giftedhomeschoolers.org/resources/parent-and-professional-resources/articles/defining-giftedness/
Tests and testing http://giftedhomeschoolers.org/resources/parent-and-professional-resources/articles/testing-2/

“The other problem” chimed in Columbus Cheetah “is that very often people have mistaken ideas about what giftedness is and is not. There are so many myths surrounding giftedness. I always aim to counter the myths in my role as Myth Buster
http://www.giftedresources.org/gr/columbuscheetah.htm
And I also advocate for employing acceleration when appropriate and using the Iowa acceleration scales
https://www.accelerationinstitute.org/Resources/IAS.aspx

One of the common misconceptions is that all children are gifted
Gifted Homeschoolers Forum has a page of Rapid Responses to this issue at http://giftedhomeschoolers.org/resources/parent-and-professional-resources/articles/are-all-children-gifted/

Thank goodness Gifted Homeschoolers Forum gives links to information about giftedness and its measurement so that we do not have to do not have to rely on Lobsters with rulers and protractors.

This is a post for Gifted Homeschoolers Forum October blog hop.
To find all the posts please go to

http://giftedhomeschoolers.org/blog-hops/discovering-the-depth-and-breadth-of-giftedness/

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Asking for Help – A Guest Expert Panel Q&A session

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The Hoagies’ Gifted Blog Hop for October 2015 looks at How and When to Ask For Help
www.HoagiesGifted.org/blog_hop_asking_for_help.htm

Who can help gifted and 2E students and how and when should we seek help?
From school administrators, teachers and coaches, mentors and leaders? From counsellors or therapists? From state &/or federal government? From humankind? From the Universe? From family and friends and other members of the gifted community? Who helps or has helped you and how? How did you seek them or reach them or find them? What difference did it make?

To address these questions we have assembled a panel of experts from Sprite’s Site.
Paula, the Physicist, will answer questions about the role of a mentor.
Dr. Ed Needs, the Education Consultant, will be joining the session via Skype.
Columbus Cheetah will speak about the myths surrounding gifted and 2E students.
The Psych-Owl-Ogist will address issues relating to identification and testing and social/emotional issues.
Twitter Bird Retweet, mother of gifted tweetlets, will speak about the support available from Parent Support Groups.
A representative from the government was invited but sent a note of apology and referred the audience to their website.
Intellectual Dabrowski was not one of the invited experts but offered to share his extensive knowledge.

The format will be Question and Answer to preselected questions.
At the end of the session the audience will have an opportunity to ask their questions in the Comments section at the end of this post.

Question 1: How can you identify gifted students and where can you go for testing?
Psych-Owl-Ogist: There are checklists which can be completed by teachers and parents and various other ways of recording observations which can help to identify gifted students.
However if you need an I.Q. test administered you need to find a psychologist or education consultant who is qualified and registered to administer the test. And it is important to choose a person who specialises in working with gifted people.
The main tests are the Stanford Binet and the WISC. For articles and discussions about the comparisons between these and other tests see http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/identification.htm 
http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/testing.htm

Dr Ed Needs: Some education consultants are also qualified and registered to administer these tests as well as academic achievement level testing. They can also give testing to show areas of strength/weakness and detect possible learning difficulties and give the necessary recommendations, therapy and support.

Intellectual Dabrowski: If you are looking for psychologists and education consultants in Australia who have a special interest in giftedness see Gifted Resources list at http://www.giftedresources.org/gr/psychedcons.htm

Question 2 (To Retweet): Where have you found helpful advice for raising your gifted tweetlets?

Retweet: The Psych-Owl-Ogist tested the tweetlets and gave us helpful advice about social emotional issues. And he helped us work through decisions about our parenting.
I have also found that joining a parent support group for parents of gifted tweetlets has been helpful because I am able to discuss things with those parents which most of my friends and even some of the members of our extended family do not understand.
Since we decided to continue NEST Ed rather than sending the tweetlets to fly with the local flock we have found much helpful information from Gifted Homeschoolers Forum
and from the local NEST Ed group.

Intellectual Dabrowski: For more information about Parenting and Parent Groups see
http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/parenting.htm
http://giftedparentingsupport.blogspot.com.au/

Question 3: I have been told that acceleration is harmful for gifted students. What does the panel think about this?

Columbus Cheetah: I will answer that question. It is one of the myths about giftedness that acceleration is harmful for gifted students. I discuss this and other myths about giftedness on Gifted Resources website at http://www.giftedresources.org/gr/columbuscheetah.htm

Intellectual Dabrowski: For more information about Acceleration and the Iowa Acceleration Scales see http://www.accelerationinstitute.org/
http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/acceleration.htm
http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/blog_hop_acceleration.htm

Question 4 (To Paula): Paula, you are a Physicist and a Mentor for Sprite. How are you able to assist Sprite in your role as mentor?

Paula: Like Sprite I am twice exceptional. I have overcome the same learning difficulties that Sprite has and have earned tertiary degrees. I also share a love of astronomy with Sprite. So I am able to relate to her and understand her areas of interest and the struggles she has. Often I can offer advice from my own experience. Also I am a person who is not her parent or teacher so sometimes she finds it easier to confide in me.
As a 2E student Sprite sometimes needs special provisions, accommodations or concessions but is often embarrassed by the need to ask for help.
I know that Sprite finds it difficult to ask for help and I am encouraging her to ask for and accept the help she needs. I am also trying to help her overcome the negative effects of perfectionism while retaining the positive aspects of it

Intellectual Dabrowski: More information about mentors  http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/mentors.htm 

Question 5 (To all panel members): Do you have a role as an advocate to help the gifted?
Paula: Whenever you speak up to increase awareness or explain issues you are acting as an advocate. Sometimes I speak to groups such as this about the characteristics and social emotional issues associated with gifted and 2E students and my role as a mentor.

Dr Ed Needs: I advocate for gifted and 2E students by giving recommendations for the educational provisions they need. Sometimes this involves being present as an advocate for the student during parent/teacher meetings. I also speak at conferences and write articles which are widely distributed.
One of the most important ways I act as an advocate is by giving parents and guardians the information, support and encouragement they need to advocate for their children.
And I also encourage the students to advocate for themselves and request the provisions they need in a respectful manner.

Columbus Cheetah: I act as a Myth Buster and as an advocate for acceleration, appropriate education in terms of pace, level, depth and breadth and for time spent with true peers rather than age peers.

Psych-Owl-Ogist: My advocacy is very similar in form to that of my esteemed colleague Dr Ed Needs.

Retweet: I allow my story to be told in the hope that it will help others who are in the same situation as me.

Intellectual Dabrowski: For more information about advocacy read

https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2014/09/29/advocacy-just-ask-sprite-and-co/

https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/advocacy/

https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/08/10/advocacy-2/

http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/blog_hop_gifted_advocacy.htm

This is a post for the Hoagies’ Gifted Blog Hop for October 2015 How and When to Ask For Help.

To read more about this topic please visit
www.HoagiesGifted.org/blog_hop_asking_for_help.htm

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Beginning the journey: Gifted 101

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Hoagies’ Gifted Blog Hop for August 2015 has the theme Gifted 101
‘For back to school, let’s share all we’ve learned with those who are just beginning the journey. Whether it’s your favorite resources, advocacy advice, parenting, schooling, homeschooling, acceleration… There are so many things we have to share!’

The stories about The Tweet family of Twitter Birds who live on Sprite’s Site Blog illustrate the beginnings of the gifted journey.

In February 2012 Retweet laid a blue egg and a pink egg and in March 2012 the tweetlets, Tweetil and Tweetelle, hatched.

By late March the tweetlets were demonstrating characteristics often
associated with giftedness in early childhood and their stories described parenting
issues and differences of opinion with Great Aunt Hashtag
 https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/03/22/tweetlets/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/in-my-day/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/the-tweetlets-meet-the-dabrowski-dogs/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/nappies-on-tweetlets/

Then came a series of tales about asynchronous development as the Tweet family commenced Flight School
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/20/flight-school/
 https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/flight-school-with-help-from-the-dabrowski-dogs/
 https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/flight-school-hits-the-asynchrony-speed-bump/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/marking-time-to-the-beat-of-their-own-drum/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/in-my-day-reprise/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/tweetelle-becomes-a-seedetarian/

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The Psych-Owl-Ogist was consulted and we learned about characteristics of giftedness and social/emotional aspects
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/03/the-psych-owl-ogist-1/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/the-psych-owl-ogist-2/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/the-psych-owl-ogist-3/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/the-psych-owl-ogist-4/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/24/the-psych-owl-ogist-5/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/the-psych-owl-ogist-6/

Next came the discussions involved in finding the right flock for the tweetlets
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/07/17/finding-the-right-flock/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/finding-the-right-flock-2/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/08/18/finding-the-right-flock-3/
and the decision to continue with Nest Ed and the challenges associated with that choice
 https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/socialization/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/socialization-2/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/qualified-to-teach/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/cuckoos-in-the-nest/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/when-extended-family-dont-get-giftedness/

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I hope that sharing these stories about the experiences of the Tweet family will be helpful.

To read more about the topic of Gifted 101 join the Hoagies’ Blog hop at http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/blog_hop_gifted_101.htm

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Giftedness: Why Does It Matter?

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The sign announcing the Gifted Homeschoolers Forum September blog hop on the topic ‘Giftedness- why does it matter?’ had been posted and the characters at Sprite’s Site were busy discussing it.

“Giftedness matters because, to quote the Columbus Group definition, the gifted need modifications in parenting, teaching and counselling in order to develop optimally” said the Psych-Owl-Ogist.

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“It was certainly very helpful for us to have the tweetlets assessed by the Psych-Owl-Ogist and to learn about giftedness” Retweet said “Before we did that everyone said that they were just being naughty or neurotic and blamed our parenting. But when we found out it helped us to be more understanding and also to make decisions about how they should be educated”

https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/best-australian-blogs-2013-no-14-stories-3-twitter-bird-tales/

“It also matters because there are so many myths and so much misinformation about giftedness” said Columbus Cheetah.
http://www.giftedresources.org/gr/columbuscheetah.htm
“We have people saying everyone is gifted or nobody is gifted. We have people saying you can create giftedness by practice and attitude. We have people saying it does not matter whether you identify giftedness if you differentiate. We have people saying you should give all students exactly the same programs and people saying gifted do not need any different treatment.”
“But we know from the Columbus group definition that the gifted need modifications in parenting, teaching and counselling in order to develop optimally”

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“It is especially important in the case of 2E students like Sprite” said Columbus Cheetah. “If their giftedness is not recognized only their learning difficulties and differences get noticed and they are put into remedial groups and not given appropriate challenges. Or else the difficulties mask the giftedness and the giftedness enables the student to hide the difficulties and the student appears average and receives no modifications at all.”

“That is why initial assessment with a psychologist who specialises in gifted and 2E issues and ongoing evaluation and treatment with an education consultant can be so helpful. 2E students need to be allowed to work at their level of ability while receiving support for their difficulties. Sometimes special services or funding is available for the students whose needs qualify them to receive them”
That is why Sprite went back to see Dr Ed Needs recently for progressive achievement testing and planning the next stages of her education.
We are planning Sprite’s education programs http://www.giftedresources.org/gr/feetspeakforweb01.htm  using De Bono’s 6 Action Shoes as the planning tool and checking the effectiveness of the programs using Gagne’s DMGT model. We need to make both suitable provisions for both her giftedness and support measures for her difficulties.

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We talked about the topic of Identification of gifted students recently on Twitter #gtchat.
The transcript can be found here   https://storify.com/gtchatmod/gtchat-gifted-identification

A review of the chat and additional information links will be found on the #gtchat blog at http://globalgtchatpoweredbytagt.wordpress.com/

This is a post for the Gifted Homeschoolers Forum September Blog Hop.
Please join us on the hop and read and comment on the posts.
To find all the posts in the hop please follow the links at http://giftedhomeschoolers.org/blog-hops/giftedness-why-matters/  

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Gifted – How?

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Psycho Motor Dabrowski had interrupted our discussion about Animal Farm to remind me that I should write a blog post on the topic ‘Gifted – How?’ for the Hoagiesgifted September blog hop.

“Some people say that everyone is gifted in some way. Do you think that is true?” Sprite asked me.

“Some people tend to confuse the term gifted (which means an IQ above a certain level and the related heightened intensity) with being unique or special.” I said

Yes, everyone is unique and special, precious and of equal worth. Everyone has areas of strength and ability and attributes which some people would call gifts or talents.

But NO, everyone is NOT gifted in the sense of the word as we use it here on the blog!

I could see that Columbus Cheetah was eager to share his myth busting efforts with us and he pointed to a collection of his cheetah logic at http://www.giftedresources.org/gr/columbuscheetah.htm

“But what about when people say something like Psycho Motor is gifted at bouncing?” asked Sprite.

“I would say that Psycho Motor has a talent for bouncing but that is not what makes him gifted” I said

The terms gifts and talents are used in different ways according to the definition being quoted.

Prof Francoys Gagne’s DMGT model speaks of Giftedness as innate abilities in a number  of different Domains which can be transformed into fully developed Talent if circumstances are favourable.

The Psych Owl Ogist talks about being gifted in different ways at https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/the-psych-owl-ogist-6/

You can read more about Definitions of Giftedness on Hoagies Gifted Education pages at http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/ 

This post is part of the Hoagiesgifted September Blog hop. Gifted, How?
The different faces of giftedness. The creative gifted, the math gifted, the chess kid, the 2e child, the introvert, etc. All gifted kids (and adults) don’t all look alike!  What does the face of giftedness look like to you?
Links to all the posts in the blog hop can be found at  www.hoagiesgifted.org/blog_hop_gifted_how.htm

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Gifted @ Play: Calculate your Leisure Profile

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The Hoagies Gifted Education Blog Hop http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/blog_hops.htm for June has the theme Gifted @ Play http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/blog_hop_gifted_at_play.htm

“What does “play” mean to gifted kids?  What kinds of play are best? Indoors or outdoors?  Structured or free-play?  Creative play using tools such as Lego, Kapla or Zome?  Exploring nature through geocaching, or exploring gravity through old-fashioned playground equipment?  What kinds of play are favorites of gifted kids, teens and adults?  What kinds of play can gifted families do together? Play is important to us ALL!”

Sprite’s Site is participating in the blog hop and we invite you to have a consultation with the Psych-Owl-Ogist and take the Dabrowski Dogs’ survey in order to calculate your leisure profile.

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Visit all the posts in the Hoagies Gifted Education Page Gifted @ Play Blog Hop by following the links at
http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/blog_hop_gifted_at_play.htm

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Best Australian Blogs 2013 No 14: Stories 3 Twitter Bird Tales

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“I thought we had already talked about the Twitter Birds” said Sprite
“Well yes, but you have not discussed the main storylines concerning the Tweet Family and the Psych-Owl-Ogist in sufficient depth” replied P’est Pour Parfait, the Perfectionist Poodle, who had arrived to make a final inspection of Sprite’s Site entry in the Australian Writers’ Centre Best Australian Blogs 2013 competition

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The Tweet Family stories began with the marriage of Tweet and Retweet in August 2011
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/twitter-bird-wedding-album-1/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/twitter-bird-wedding-album-2/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2011/08/22/twitter-bird-wedding-album-3/
 https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/twitter-bird-wedding-album-4/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2011/08/27/twitter-bird-wedding-album-5/

In February 2012 Retweet laid a blue egg and a pink egg and in March 2012 the tweetlets, Tweetil and Tweetelle, hatched.

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By late March the tweetlets were demonstrating characteristics often
associated with giftedness in early childhood and the story described parenting
issues and differences of opinion with Great Aunt Hashtag
 https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/03/22/tweetlets/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/in-my-day/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/the-tweetlets-meet-the-dabrowski-dogs/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/nappies-on-tweetlets/
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Then came a series of tales about asynchronous development as the Tweet family commenced Flight School
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/20/flight-school/
 https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/flight-school-with-help-from-the-dabrowski-dogs/
 https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/flight-school-hits-the-asynchrony-speed-bump/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/marking-time-to-the-beat-of-their-own-drum/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/in-my-day-reprise/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/tweetelle-becomes-a-seedetarian/
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The Psych-Owl-Ogist was consulted and we learned about characteristics of giftedness and social/emotional aspects
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/03/the-psych-owl-ogist-1/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/the-psych-owl-ogist-2/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/the-psych-owl-ogist-3/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/the-psych-owl-ogist-4/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/24/the-psych-owl-ogist-5/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/the-psych-owl-ogist-6/

Next came the discussions involved in finding the right flock for the tweetlets
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/07/17/finding-the-right-flock/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/finding-the-right-flock-2/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/08/18/finding-the-right-flock-3/
and the decision to continue with Nest Ed and the challenges associated with that choice
 https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/socialization/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/socialization-2/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2013/03/16/qualified-to-teach/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/cuckoos-in-the-nest/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/when-extended-family-dont-get-giftedness/
https://spritessite.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/digital-badges-2/
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“And talking about Twitter Birds reminds me to tell you I would like to see you put a Twitter button and a Facebook button in the sidebar of the blog” said Parfait.

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Vote for Sprite’s Site (and as many other great Australian blogs as you like) by clicking on the Vote for Me button in the sidebar of the blog. But you can only vote once: so be sure to make the vote count. Sprite’s Site is on Page 4 O-S.
If you have entered Sprite’s Site by following a link to a specific post you will need to click on the Sprite’s Site header to see the sidebar.